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HELLO BAHIA: QUESTION ABOUT WOMEN OF BRAZIL

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I recently received an email from a brother interested in moving to Salvador, Bahia, Brasil part-time.  He asked some questions that I'm sure somebody else out there has as well.  This article covers a lot.  Dosen't matter what you are looking for in Brazil, booty, real estate deals, prices for rent, or if you are trying to find out how the women are down here.

Read on we may have answered some questions for you...


  • Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 6:09:14 PM
Subject: hello, bahia
 Hello, this might be a few stupid questions, but I wanted to know if women in salvador bahia are open to dateing dark skinned african american? Ive heard of latin american racism towards blacks, so I wanted to ask the question. Also I have an intenet business thats doing pretty good and im thinking of moving to salvador bahia six months out of the year. How is life in slavador? Is it expensive? thanks


Anonymous
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  • Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:22 PM

afro brazilian girls at the beachPeace,
No shame in asking questions.  I'm glad you asked.  To answer your 1st one.

Yes the women of brazil, especially here in Bahia (and everywhere in the world, lol) love dark skinned men.  Many of the women here in Salvador, Bahia are dark skinned themselves.  Bahia is the heart of Afro Brazilian culture.  Check out this video I posted on facebook a back in February to see what some of the people down here look like: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=123782181029121.  









No matter how dark or light your complexion is you will find yourself right at home. It's a lot like the hood (i.e. any black neighborhood) in the USA.  In many Latin American countries (like Argentina I've heard), "Brazil" is synonymous with "black".  In other words saying you are from Brazil is like saying you are from Detroit, Atlanta, Memphis, Oakland, or some other majority black area.

To answer your 2nd question.  Congratulations on your successful internet business!  I have some that are doing great too.  That is definitely the way to go as making money online allows you the freedom to travel and also to conduct business from anywhere that has internet access.

Salvador is not expensive at all compared to the USA.  It is the 3rd largest city in Brazil, so the cost of living is not as low here as it is in the majority of the country.  It is less than half the cost of living in a US city of the same size like Miami or Houston.  Plus it is WAAAY less stressful.
For people that make money overseas (like online for example) your dollars definitely go further down here in Bahia.

Peace,
Sharif
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women of brazil and brazil bootySent: Sat, March 19, 2011 8:42:47 PM
thanks for your response buddy. Once I come to Bahia maybe we can meet. Have you been to Recife or Fortaleza? For some reason I love the mulata women in brazil. Are there alot of these women in salvador, recife, fortaleza? thanks
Anonymous

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  • Sun, March 20, 2011 12:36:30 AM

Peace,
Sure we can link up when you touch down here.  I've never been to Recife or Fortaleza.  As for Salvador, yeah there are a lot of women who fit in the mulatta description.

Sharif

  • Mon, March 21, 2011 11:54:53 AM
Subject: Re: hello, bahia
Thanks sharif, One last question, what are some typical cheap rent prices? Is it possible to rent a room from someone?
Anonymous

  • Mon Mar 21st, 2011 6:30 PM EDT Sharif Ali wrote:
Here are sample rent prices for a temporary place:
Furnished Apartments
around 200 USD per week
or
around 500 USD per month


Hotels
Nice Room 77-80 USD per day
Upscale With Ocean View 115 USD per day


Pousadas (this is where you rent a room in a large house converted into a hotel called a "pousada")
around 50 USD per day


I also have a tour company so we get rentals like this for people who come down here all the time.  These are just sample prices, let me know if you want any more info.
 Sharif


  • Mon, March 21, 2011 7:48:45 PM
Subject: Re: hello, bahia


Thanks for the help buddy, I appreciate it. As soon as I get my internet business up and running smoothly I will be head to bahia. Ive been studying my portuguese, and cant wait to get there. If everything works out, I might make a permanent move there. How did you obtain your permanent visa to brazil?
 Anonymous
  • Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 8:34 PM

I got a permanent investors visa three years ago.  All I had to do was open an llc here in brazil and transfer $50,000 into my new brazil business account.  Now in 2011 the law has changed and I believe the amount is anywhere from $R150,000-200,000.

They base it off of the Brazil currency to get away from the US dollar and the amount has increased.
Sharif
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  • Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 8:57:50 PM
Subject: hello again
Hello again Sharif, I'm starting to plan things on my stay in Salvador Bahia. Im very eager to explore the Brazilian culture but I want to know about the women of Bahia also. Are Bahia women open to dating African American men, despite the language barrier? Do you think its its just hard to meet women as the U.S. are there alot of available, quality women in Bahia? thank you
 Anonymous
  • Mon, March 28, 2011 12:21:52 PM






Peace,

I'm glad to hear you are planning on coming out here to check out Bahia.  To answer your question, yes the women are open to dating African American men.  The language barrier is not a problem, especially if you are open to learning Portuguese and most importantly friendly and fun to be around.  Here in Brazil the big emphasis is on enjoying life so as long as you are friendly and cool you will have no problem with the ladies.  You should make some effort to learn at least the basics in Portuguese though, since you are planning on coming to Brazil and Portuguese is their language.  Most people do not speak English here.  Just like in the U.S.  It's not a lot of people walking around in the States who speak Portuguese.  The good thing about having a girlfriend who speaks Portuguese is that she will have you speaking it in no time and she can help you get acquainted to life down here.

On your 2nd question, no it is way easier to meet women of Brazil.  I say that because the culture here is generally more friendly and accepting than in the U.S.  People don't act as "stuck up" as the do in the U.S. either.  It is way easier to make friends in Brazil.  The culture here is friendlier and also big on showing affection.  For example, generally when you greet the opposite sex here you give them a hug and kiss on both cheeks.  If you are talking to a female you generally hold her hand and make eye contact.  This doesn't mean she's your girlfriend, it's just part of the culture here to show affection (which also makes it easier to hook up with the opposite sex).


Also, there are plenty of beautiful, young women here who are not married.  I'm not just saying that.  I'm a man.  I live out here in Bahia.  I see them everyday.  There is no shortage of beauties.  Fear not.  You might have to worry about going into sensory overload from the overabundance of bonitinha garotas (pretty girls)!  Literally, a friend of mine who is visiting Bahia right now was just saying that the other day.  He was joking that he was about to go into diabetic shock from all the sweet ladies he was seeing.

Hope that answers your questions.
Let me know if you have any other questions.

Peace
Sharif
  • Mon, March 28, 2011 1:22:47 PM







check out this link: http://www.collegenet.com/elect/app/app?service=external/Forum&sp=14582
That pretty much sums it up!
I forgot to add that the women here are more old school in a good way because they still value family and understand the important role that women play in society.  Here the woman knows how to cook, clean, and take care of the children.  She also knows how to treat her mate and make him feel like a man.  In return she expects her man to take care of her, and shower her with attention and affection.

In other words the women here don't ask for to much in return.  I didn't want to make it seem like I am trying to sell Bahia to anyone because I'm not.  But this is the truth.  I know a lot of American women would probably hate to hear this talk but the truth hurts.

women of brazilIf you are a decent guy who would like to find a good woman it's very possible to find the woman of your dreams in Bahia.

I agree with what the guy said on that link with the name lowkey.  He is on point.  Hell my wife is Puerto Rican/Haitian.  She knows how to be a woman and take care of her man.  That's why I married her, lol.

I love the women in America too but it's really difficult to find one with these important values.  Most of them don't even know how (or are to lazy) to cook.  This is sad.  Back in the day Mama used to tell her daughter that the fastest way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

Now you got a lot of ladies who either want to eat out or throw some food in the microwave and call it dinner.  They aren't worried about getting to the man's heart as much as getting to his wallet, lol.

You have some golddiggers and tramps down here but the majority of women aren't like that.

Hope that helps,

Sharif


This Info is Really on Point and Balanced.  Great Perspective:
             1st PART           Location: PA        Re: Brazilian women are taking American Men
I've read everybody’s post so far. Some people make some valid points. I think some people are guessing about how Brazilian culture works. I like all cultures and have visited and dealt with women from several different countries and ethnicities. 
To those that say that there are men that only go to Brazil to have sex with beautiful willing women. You are right. There are some men that do that. Do a lot of black men go to Brazil to find women for wives, yes they do. The difference is that you will always have people that will take advantage of others. That is a given. I do not like anymore than anyone else. For those men that go to Brazil to find the women of their dreams I think that is perfectly fine. 
Some of you people that have posted might not know that there are 4x as many black people in Brazil then there are in America. Most of the amazingly smart and beautiful black women in America are married or engaged in a relationship. They are prized possessions. The chances of a Black male from America finding the woman of their dreams are much higher in Brazil. First the average age of a black male in Brazil is 19. That is due to the fact there is not a true middle class and most males have fallen victim to very violent crimes. The ratio of women to men in Brazil is 4 to 1.
(PLEASE READ THE 2ND PART)
2ND PART                 Location: PA            Re: Brazilian women are taking American Men
I hate to give this a general perspective, but I can only go based upon the people that have met in my travels. 
The women in Brazil are not stupid. They understand their situation. They also know that Brazilian men do not need to marry. Most Brazilian women that are married openly know that their Husbands are being unfaithful.
They also understand that Brazil does not subsidize single mothers as they do in America. I have to say this so do not get to mad. If there were no enforced child support or Social programs in America single mothers in America would not be as independent as they claim. Remember this, the average Brazilian woman can only make but so much. There is a ceiling for women in Brazil. Brazilian women understand that marring an American Man will automatically improve their social and economical standings.
I personally love traveling to Bahia. The culture there is very close to that of some of the countries in Africa. I think the one thing that Black American men have picked up on is that Brazilian women have the physical features that they like and have the cultural values of Africa. Where the American Black women are completely westernized and there are less black women in America than Brazil.


Personally I love women no matter where they come from. If they are sincere and have a beautiful spirit they could be from Mars.
Hate it or Love it, that's how it is.

WELL SAID!
SHARIF ALI
admin@mooraboutbahia.com


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18 comments:

  1. I couldn't help but feel somewhat offended reading this. The stereotypes were overwhelmingly simplistic. Why? Well, WHICH African-American women are they talking about?? From WHICH African-American culture? We're not a monolithic people. We're Gullah, Mississippi Delta, Seminole, Kréyol - the list goes on. Our values are often very consistent, but can often vary according to 1) our own native culture/region and 2) whether or not our families participated in the "Great Migration". It also depends on the generation. I'm not old by any means, I still get carded regularly, thank goodness. But I am grown. And my family's values are intact.

    I learned to cook at the age of nine. My father was born and raised in the rural south where our values tend to be strongest. Those same values were enforced in the home when he raised us. I was born and raised in NYC, but I grew up on zydeco, gospel, vodun, and cooking was a religious experience. Our southern values were ever-present. My husband is Central African and he constantly marvels at how similar our values are - even our habits and child-rearing beliefs. I believe this is because of our mutual Bantu heritage (as you likely already know, most of us in the south are of Bakongo origin), but I digress. My husband constantly watches me and tells me that we're "more African" than many Africa-born women you see today in or outside the continent. (In our values, beliefs, etc.) So it's ironic that I'm reading the complaints here regarding this "lack of African values" that we're being painted with here, as big and diverse as the US' African-American population is.

    The fact is, most African women are painted with the same brush that is used in this post. African men here rant about how the women are not "traditional", no longer cook, want monetary wealth (and you'd better come with it with African women, they're not as forgiving as our behinds in the US when it comes to that. Plumber?? Bet on being single or at the very least, evenly yoked economically/professionally.).

    African men rant about the same exact things and the women are judged in the same way. Miraculously, at least in Europe, they manage to pair themselves consistently with European women. I suppose those elusive African values they're searching for are somehow present in the White female population of Europe? Seriously? The fact is, those values weren't very important to them in the first place.

    Now, my family is rooted in Lwizyen and the South Sea Islands. Are we to be painted with the same brush? Because our values are intact. Where were these men searching for women?? Because the US is an enormous country and African-American people and our values are different in the US according to where you go, first off.

    Secondly, what "African values" are these men bringing to the table?? The man in this article just claimed that he wants a "mulatta woman". (Why am I not surprised that he's dark-skinned, making a statement like that?) I'm "multi-race", as most African-Americans are, and I find the term "mulatta" offensive. Even the idea of deliberately searching for a multi-race woman is objectifying and offensive to me.

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  2. I also noticed the following here:  

    1)  If a Brazilian woman wants a man who can provide financial security, she is a noble woman, a victim of her country's economic circumstances and simply acting as any normal red-blooded woman would.  

          If an African-American woman wants a man who can provide financial security, she's a whore and a gold-digger.

    2)  If I'm African-American (which I proudly am, we're revered out here for our accomplishments, our culture, and our beauty - both the women and the men), then I need to come to the table with a five- or six-year degree, a bank account, a great credit score and  an amazing body/face.  

          If I'm Brazilian (which I'm not, though they are our diasporan brothers & sisters), then I just need to be "mulatta" or at least have an apple ass and I'm wife material. 

    I'd seriously liked to know what exactly is so "African value-based" that these men are bringing to the table.  There's a clear preference for a woman who won't ask much of you, and that is NOT AFRICAN.  I'm saying it loud and clear and hubby said it even louder.  There's nothing African about not demanding the best from and for your man and your family.  If she's not asking much of you, then let's not paint that as African, because it is NOT.  

    Thank you Legba, I'm married and don't have to deal with this dysfunction/insanity.   When White America can divide you so that you demonize your own female counterparts - as MATRIARCHAL as we are as Black people - then you know they have successfully conquered you.  Our ancestors have gone through SO MUCH - together.  They worked the same fields, the same crops, the same harvests; they underwent the same brutality (aside from rape); they survived the same lashes of the whip;  they loved each other fiercely and somehow survived their separation from mother, sister, father, brother, son, daughter.  They survived all of that so that we could be here today to pass on their stories, their values, their names.  So that we could have better and more, and enjoy those fruits together and intact.

    And what do we do?  Allow America's deliberately destructive propaganda machine and media to tear us apart so that we flee each other.  We're like a body with no head, no direction.  I know my late nana wept for these statements here.  We have truly allowed ourselves to be conquered as a people, and it's shameful. The fact is, these men are simply insecure; need someone "lower-achieving" (economically/professionally) than them to make them feel like "more of a man"; thinking with their nether regions) and running away from the reflection of themselves.

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  3. And two last things:  
    1)  there's NOTHING African about going after a woman based on the size of her behind, her racial admixture, or the way she looks.  African couples and marriages are based on the coming together of families.  What is her family like?  What are her families' values?  These are the questions an African man or woman is asking when they enter a relationship.  Not your hip to waist ratio.  Sorry for the long comment, but this post was something else.  

    2)  These Black men who criticize Black women for their strengths are simply buying into European culture.  In African culture (which is traditionally matriarchal), women are not demonized for being educated, strong-willed, determined, courageous, straight-forward.  Our greatest freedom fighters and rebels were overwhelmingly female - including Harriet Tubman of the US, Nanni of Jamaica, and Yaa Asantewaa of Ghana.  This idea of "making a man feel like a man" by cleaning, cooking, hanging onto him, and having sex with him is so Eurocentric, it's incredible.  My husband laughed when he read it. He's an African man (from the bush and proud of it), and he sincerely doesn't understand that about men in the US.  He only knows of that behavior and culture from his European patients (he's a clinical psychiatrist.)

    So again, what exactly is so African that these men are bringing to the table??  Because it's very clear that they are truly lost and trying to navigate life with Black women using the values & ideals of their colonial masters.  And that CANNOT work.  They are incompatible.

    Seriously, sorry for the long comment, but this was just outrageous to me.

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  4. Just as a follow-up (this post had me so dang livid), I just finished speaking to my husband about this again and he said he couldn't believe that this site (and that forum) was trying to attribute female docility/service (cook, clean, and fulfill sexual desires) to Africa.

    We've lived in Western and Central Europe where my husband is a clinical psychiatrist and these attributes have ALWAYS been attributed to the European ideal of what a woman should be.

    He said it's a waste of time to write to people here and elsewhere because you cannot convince people. However, I have to defend our mother continent. These men are simply searching amongst Black women for European ideals - and that's a recipe for disaster.

    No wonder the state of affairs between the genders in the US is so pathetic. Let's not try to auto-justify sex tourism or "mulatta preferences" by claiming we're searching for African ideals. The ideals proclaimed in this reading were all European and nothing else.

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  5. Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents.
    This post is bound to offend seeing as how it consists of some stereotypes of black women.

    This is no way represents ALL black women in America or anywhere else in the world!
    This consists of some questions and viewpoints offered by a handful of black men who either travel or are interested in travel to Brazil.

    I don't think we as a people should be fighting each other or looking outside our own community for a mate however I understand why a person from the USA may wish to expand their options worldwide when searching for a partner. Their is nothing wrong with that either (you may agree given that your husband is African). We are and always have been international people. The entire globe is our playground.

    Everyone has their own preferences and also their own consciousness level. We all have different values and see things from our own perspectives. I'm not here to judge anyone just to offer advice from my perspective as an Americano living here in Bahia, Brazil.

    I am 30 years old. Most of my counterparts in the USA either do not cook at all or do not cook very well, lol. Seriously though, it just is not a praised or valued skillset anymore in the USA. Of course there black women who can cook but things are not the same anymore. Mom and Grandmom do not get to instill these values into the younger generations anymore. Brazil is the opposite. That is just one example. This is my experience. I still see people riding down the street on donkeys and horses (in the middle of a large city). It is not like that in the USA anymore.

    That is the truth. Times have changed. Society is decaying fast and I am not going to defend it! I'm not saying Brazil is some magical fantasy land place just calling it like I see it. I'm really just sharing my experience.

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  6. What about Brazil for the Black woman?...How are they viewed and treated both the native (black) Brazilian women visiting?...

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  7. Im from the UK and Brazillians are known for the racism, such practices are highlighted in documentaries ect, however I love the culture and the way the men love their women, however this sight seems to be for men only?...why is this?...

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  8. Black women visiting Brazil should have no problems meeting people and making friends. Visually they look just like the locals. The main differences are cultural, mainly language. They would not be viewed negatively by most Brazilians. Foreigners are not viewed in a negative light. Skin color does not work against you. I know what people say but I live here. Brazil is no more or less racist than ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. I hope that answers your question adequately.

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  9. This site seems to be only for men because most of the visitors are men. It's also coming from a male perspective because the editor (Me) is a man. I do appreciate hearing from the female perspective and have no problem posting experiences from women on here as well to offer a more balanced perspective.

    Go to this link: http://www.mooraboutbahia.com/search/label/Expat%20and%20Traveller%20Experiences or go to the top of the page and click the drop-down menu and choose the option "Expat and Traveller Experiences" to see some stories from different female travellers and some expats who live here permanently. Also check out my wife's blog at: http://www.4ssssdddd.blogspot.com

    These resources should help explain a well rounded feminine perspective of Brazil through the eyes of foreigners. Also you are more than welcome to share your experience with Brazil/Brazilians either through your travels or your interactions with your Brazilian friends/family with the other readers of this site.

    I'd love to hear your take on things!

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  10. Black men are the true slave always wanted anything that look european or close to white!! Mulattos are half white and you consider that africa lol.

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    1. is that why black women wear weaves and straighten their hair?

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    2. maybe, why are you anonymous? and the best thing to do is ask a black woman this question.

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  11. Hmmm interesting. I actually live in Brazil and the people look the same as Black people in the United States. I guess the last poster is anonymous because he/she is ashamed to associate their racist mindstate with their true identity.

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  12. I can't comment on the Africa part of this, because I don't know, and I'm a white guy, but I will say that I live in Connecticut and the women here and in the surrounding states are the snottiest bizatches you can imagine. They are all spoiled princesses (or unfortunately in the inner cities, totally poor, marginalized and racist against whites like me). If you don't have a lot of money, it's all over for you as a man. I'm a good looking guy and nice, and I hear the same story's all the time. If you say 'hi' to a women you don't know, you're lucky if you don't get maced. Why the heck wouldn't I want to move to Bahia where the women are KIND and HOT. Does that make me jerk or a man? American women don't have any of the femininity that latin women have, NOT AT ALL. Why wouldn't these guys want to be surrounded by beautiful women, and get one who will take care of a house, while they go out and work? Or alternatively, she can go out and work and I'll take care of the house. Furthermore, sorry, but the shape of a women's behind is a critical factor for men, so get over it. Also, I'd like to be in an area where sex isn't looked at under a Puritanical lens. Sex is just natural and people should do it, thats it. When I was in Trinidad, my experience with women was unlike anything in the US. They were nice, they were responsive, unless they just weren't interested, but generally it was easy to meet women and get dates. Here everyone is so guarded and has 20 walls up. That's why I hope to meet Sharif Ali down in Brazil!!!

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    1. Peace Johnny,
      I hear where you are coming from.
      Just send me an email here: bahiacitytours@gmail.com
      I can help you with your travel arrangements. Check this site out as well: www.bahiabraziltours.com

      Take care

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  13. this blog is a lie like this shit right there

    "It's a lot like the hood (i.e. any black neighborhood) in the USA. In many Latin American countries (like Argentina I've heard), "Brazil" is synonymous with "black". In other words saying you are from Brazil is like saying you are from Detroit, Atlanta, Memphis, Oakland, or some other majority black area"

    That's a fucking lie

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  14. Hi! I have fantasies of moving to Bahia with my husband, although I realize I will need to learn at least *some* Portugese and visit as a tourist first. A friend from El Salvador is telling me Bahia is a bad idea and I should think about Rio instead, but I'm particularly attracted to Bahia because of its African and old-school European roots in culture and architecture, as well as the friendly reputation. I am a blonde haired, blue eyed, pale-skinned 28 yr old woman. I am used to (and enjoy) immersing myself in cultures that people tell me I "don't belong" in (I live in a very poor African American neighborhood in Chicago, and I love it here). Do you think I would be treated fairly in Bahia or would the fact that I would stick out like a sore thumb pose too much of a headache? I am a very friendly, easygoing person and I am used to being stared at and heckled on a daily basis but only to an extent... perhaps it would be too much to get used to?

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  15. Hi Kelly.
    You probably wouldn't be mistaken for a native but other than that you should have no problems in Bahia. Brazilians in general are very friendly and open-minded people. You definitely should visit. I wouldn't recommend anyone just up and move down there like I did.

    I seriously doubt you would have problems with the locals based off of your race. Nah, it's not like that in Bahia. It would be more difficult to find acceptance among African Americans than among black Brazilians.

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